Podcast: Carin Clevidence on “Ghosts of the Southern Ocean”

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Transcript: Carin Clevidence Podcast.

Carin Clevidence speaks to managing editor Emily Everett about her essay “Ghosts of the Southern Ocean,” which appears in The Common’s fall issue. In this conversation, Carin talks about how her experiences traveling to Antarctica on expeditions have changed over the years, and how that change comes through in her writing. She also discusses her 2011 novel The House on Salt Hay Road, and the novel she’s recently completed about an expedition to Antarctica. 

Image of Carin Clevidence's headshot and The Common's Issue 22 cover: pink-peach seashell on light blue backrgound.

On her family’s history in Antarctica:

“I’ve become more aware that the things we find ourselves doing to make money are so often tied to what we know, what’s been taught to us, what’s in the family. That’s how I wound up working in Antarctica. My grandfather started, and then my mom and my uncle and my stepdad.”


On the idea of Antarctica as ‘pristine’:

“People have been trying to exploit Antarctica since before the continent itself had even been discovered. For me it’s always been tempting to see that history divided between the explorers, who are these noble people trying to further knowledge, and then the exploiters, who are just going down to slaughter seals and whales. But of course, it’s so much more complicated and nuanced than that. Both arise out of facets of human nature. In a way, Antarctic tourism is the new exploitation. And I think it can be done right, but it has to be done very carefully and very respectfully with a lot of safeguards in place, because the landscape and the balance is so delicate. The idea of it being a place that is just untouched is such a false idea.”


On her new novel, out on submission now:

“It’s a novel that takes place in Antarctica on a ship like the one I worked on, like my mom and stepdad have worked on. Writing it was a way of honoring their time there, their experience, the really tight community of people working on these ships. It’s something I’ve never seen anywhere else. It’s a little bit like a theater troupe. It has that intensity because you’re on all the time. It’s your job to make everything go well and do the best you can in these conditions: the weather is changing, the sea is changing, and you have to be on your toes all the time. They work so well together, and I wanted to give a sense of that community. And also a sense of the landscape there, which I love so much.”


Carin Clevidence grew up in a family of naturalists and travelers. She is the author of a novel, The House on Salt Hay Road (FSG), as well as essays and short stories appearing in Guernica, the Washington Post, Off-Assignment, O Magazine, OZY, Panorama, and elsewhere, and forthcoming in the anthology Letter to a Stranger: Essays to the Ones Who Haunt Us. She has worked as a deckhand in Baja, Mexico and an assistant expedition leader in Antarctica, and received a Rona Jaffe Foundation Writers’ Award, fellowships from the Fine Arts Work Center, the Elizabeth Kostova Foundation, and Sustainable Arts, and residencies at Yaddo, MacDowell, Art Omi, Marble House Project, and Hawthornden Castle, among others. She lives in Northampton, Massachusetts, and is currently at work on a novel about art, perfectionism, and revenge. 

Read her essay in The Common at thecommononline.org/ghosts-of-the-southern-ocean.

The Common is a print and online literary magazine publishing stories, essays, and poems that deepen our collective sense of place. On our podcast and in our pages, The Common features established and emerging writers from around the world. Read more and subscribe to the magazine at thecommononline.org, and follow us on Twitter @CommonMag.

Emily Everett is managing editor of the magazine and host of the podcast. Her stories appear in the Kenyon Review, Electric Literature, Tin House Online, and Mississippi Review. She holds an MA in literature from Queen Mary University of London, and a BA from Smith College. Say hello on Twitter @Public_Emily.

Podcast: Carin Clevidence on “Ghosts of the Southern Ocean”

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